The Hubbard Lie
Now we get to pages 48 and 49 where young earth hoaxes are paraded about to help the YECs give out false evidences against evolution and ‘evolutionists’. First, there is a claim about Samuel Hubbard, a museum curator went on an expedition in 1924 to find evidence of prehistoric man. There, he allegedly found a rock drawing of what he believes to be a “dinosaur” that’s nothing more than an attempt made by early fossil hunters to reconstruct plants and invertebrate animals from fossils found nearby the site where the rock art was found (Citations: Adrienne Mayor’s Fossil Legends and the First Americans pg. 337, 403) alongside of carvings of what appears to be an ibex and an elephant attacking a man (note how the alleged “dinosaur” drawing has no forearms and has a body that’s hollow and that it look more of a scorpion with a claw severed off than a dinosaur.). However, according to Institute for Biblical & Scientific Studies (IBSS) February 2008 article, Dr. Stephen Meyer made better sense when he concludes that the petroglyph actually depicts an eagle, a modern dinosaur. Thus, what Hubbard discovered was indeed a dinosaur– a modern one that is. There’s no trace of fossil remains of ibexes being found in North America. Otherwise, that’s a Native American’s conception of the North American Rocky Mountain goat carved onto the walls of the cave. This Hubbard must have thought of as an ibex even though the ibex is found in Africa and Eurasia only.
There were fossils of elephants that once lived alongside of prehistoric man found in North America such as the mammoth, the mastodon, and the Imperial Elephant. He also claims to find dinosaur footprints nearby the cave as well. However, the 2 creationists, according to the book, claims they also found footprints of elephants located alongside of dinosaur prints indicating that dinosaurs may have once lived alongside of giant mammals. But no such claim has ever been made according to the original account. The YECs just threw it in there to bring up the falsehood of dinosaurs living along side large mammals like elephants and ibexes, while in fact the only mammals to have ever lived alongside of dinosaurs were all small (except Repenomamus, a Triconodont) and resembled mice, rats, and shrews.
Although not mentioned in the book, Creationists also claimed that Hubbard also found evidence of giants living in the Grand Canyon where he allegedly discovered 2 giant human bodies entombed in the canyon walls. No doubt this is a direct fabrication on the creationists’ part, for all of what Hubbard ever saw was only just rock formations that looked like humans along the canyon walls. The notion of Hubbard finding giant skeletons in the canyon as well as elephant tracks found alongside of dinosaur track claim is all nothing more than fabrications YECs made up in attempt to come up with any evidence to support the 6,000 year lie, which they really can’t. These so-called tracks of elephants may have been nothing more than tail markings made by dinosaurs when they stood up to survey their surroundings. Even if what they claim about the rock carvings and the footprints is the case, creationists will still be at a loss for words to explain how come there are no human remains found together mixed with dinosaurs (Let alone mixed with ibexes and elephants.) and how come there are no dinosaurs found above and below the Mesozoic strata.
To know more about the Hubbard’s Doheny Expedition, click here.
Also, To know more about how the creationists use this rock carving in the most dishonest way, click here as well.
Hoaxes from North America
More young earth hoaxes are shown on pages 50 and 51 where the YECs made claims of an alleged Apatosaurus rock dinosaur (Wrongfully having a tail drag, and 5 (!) legs that’s much too short and stumpy.) carving on the rock walls of the Kachina rock bridge at the Natural Bridges National Monument in the Southwestern part of Utah possibly made up by a hoaxer who went about and distorted a faint image of an amalgamated snake-like monster to look more of a sauropod standing alongside of a human than what it really is. Creationists even included a carving of a man that wasn’t really there in the original, undistorted, faint image when they distorted it through photo editing and trick photography– a direct example of how creationists will do anything to make up false evidences to try to prove that what they say about the young earth concept is true, turn around and hypocritically accuse ‘evolutionists’ of the same thing in an effort to gain publicity.
If you really want to know how creationists distort the image and what the carving really is of, click here.
Plus, also shown on the 2 pages are 5 images of phony figurines of dinosaurs made up by workers at a quarry in Acambaro, Mexico who sold the figurines to gullible people to make a quick buck. YECs tried to deny this by claiming of a man named Charles Hapgood who found a house that was built in the 1930s and saw, on the concrete living room floor of the house, more figurines. Obviously he most likely found just a studio inside that house where the making of those fakes took place in. This fabrication all made up by creationists to hide the real story behind the alleged figurines that were created by the men who worked for Waldemer Julsrud, the man who claimed to have discovered evidence for the mythical city of Atlantis. These men created the statues and sold them to gullible people for profit and personal gain. Mark Isaak has a page right here that addresses the real story behind the claim.
Ica Hoax
More hoaxes found on page 52. This time it tells of alleged claims of Ica Stones showing carvings of dinosaurs and humans together found in some Peruvian cave that served as a tomb to the ancient people living in the jungle. Just like the figurines, the Ica stones has the big letters of H-O-A-X written all over it. Despite what the YECs made up from their heads which includes a phony story about Juan De Santa Cruz and his claims of Conquistadors taking some of the stones back to Spain (What they really took back to Spain is authentic stones that bear not a single trace of dinosaur and modern technology carved on them along with massive size bones of what they believe to be remains of giant-size humans that were destroyed in the biblical Flood, not knowing that the bones they took back to Spain were in fact mammoth or mastodon bones from the Pleistocene Epoch. The stones containing dinosaurs and modern technology are all invented by modern artists. Citations also from Adrienne Mayor’s Fossil Legends and the First Americans pg. 79), the stones were actually made up recently by a village people in the mid 1960s’ who sold them in a black market to gullible people who easily bought into the swindle. Especially a farmer and his wife who admitted to do this to earn money off of them. They carved the stones using some special tools to carve them with and obtained ideas and inspirations of them through sci-fi comic books and comic strips. Something Marc Isaak will confirm.
And here’s another thing creationists will never tell you about, lest they lose their followers, power, and wealth to reality and the truth. According to Mayor’s Book (p. 334-339) the real inspirations behind both the Ica stones and the Acambaro figurines came from fossilized discoveries of Pleistocene mastodons and horses made by the local villagers who greatly mistaken them as “dinosaur fossils.”
Argument From Ignorance
Pages 53 brings on the argument from incredulity (a.k.a. argument from ignorance) and make to discredit the notion of simpler forms from older rocks layers evolving into complex forms from the younger rock layers and the layers being formed over millions of years by claiming there are examples of many plant and animal fossils that are found cut through many layers and mentions trilobites having "more complex eyes than most of the complex animals found above them" in an effort to prove that since these seemingly primitive forms are complex and other animals are complex above, then the notion about simpler forms evolving into complex forms must be false, or so they assume while ignoring the fact that this is a pure example of shear ignorance of how evolution and natural selection works and what the fossil record is really telling us. Evolution is not at all about simpler form evolving into complex forms. It’s all about life evolving and branching out from a common ancestor. It’s about how organisms, no matter how simple and complex they are, change constantly over a period of time, descending with modification, and adapting into the ever changing environments that surrounds them. It’s about change occurring through Natural Selection. Offspring being modified versions of their parents. It’s about great diversity in species, modification, adaptation, and survival. Evolution is everything, completely the opposite of what the young earthers falsely claim it is, yet are slowly, but surely starting to accept.
Geological Layers
Then the 2 creationists try to give out a weak, feeble example on how young earth version of Noah’s Flood could have caused the formation of rock layers just by having the reader imagine having a jar of colored sand be mixed with water and shaken up to make the color layers of sand be all jumbled up unlike what geologists actually see in the geological layers in real life. This is example of great ignorance on how the geological layers is actually formed. On John Stear’s No Answers in Genesis, there is a page that gives out links to many articles that explains how the geological layers actually from. Contrary to what creationists claim, many evolutionists are aware of Noah’s Flood yet, they have evidence for the flood to be a local, yet catastrophic event by ancient standards located in the Black Sea right near the country of Turkey where the mountains of Ararat is located.
Transitional Forms
Like all YECs, these 2 YECs are no different from others when it comes to denying the existence of transitional forms. They just do that regardless of what is being shown in front of them. When a transitional from is shown to them they would just say that now there are more gaps in the record that needs to be filled. YECs are never satisfied. They demanded proof after proof after proof of a highly smooth fossil record where transitions from animal to animal, plant to plant is complete and are without gaps, which they’re not going to get. Yet, despite YECs’ false assertions, scientists have found great evidences of transitional forms from reptiles to mammals, fish to amphibians, dinosaurs to birds and much more. The most recent transitional from ever discovered is THE most irrefutable find of all… Tiktaalik rosae!
Lies About Polystrate Fossils
Pages 54 and 55 is all about blatant irony. It also shows 2 polystrate fossils and how the YECs are trying to used them to disprove evolution and earth’s long history. On page 54, the 2 YECs asks,
“Have you ever had someone tell you something, and then later you found out that what you have been told wasn’t true?”
It’s mind boggling to know that this ironic question is being asked hypocritically by 2 men who does exactly what they’re asking people about.
“It’s sad, but sometimes people tell us things that’s simply aren’t right. Perhaps that’s why the Bible commands us to ‘test all things; hold fast to what is good’ (1 Thessalonians 5:21).”
It’s totally ironic that these guys are raising awareness of people who go about telling people about things that are untrue, all while hiding the fact that the two guys are all guilty of doing the exact same thing themselves. They go about telling lies and making claims about anything from dinosaurs to evolution that are simply untrue such as what is shown on these 2 pages here. The 2 creationists claims that we are taught that the geological column proves that evolution is true and the earth is old and that many people, as one gets older, will say it’s true, which it is due to scientific evidence supporting such concepts. But creationists, on the other hand, claims it’s not by pointing out examples of polystrate fossilized tree trunks and whale remains which to them refutes the notion of evolution and earth’s long history while in fact they in fact don’t as explained here.
More Hoaxes
Oh good. More hoaxes to discredit. At the bottom of page 55, there is a claim made by a creationist who allegedly discovered a sandal print with remains of a trilobite found inside of it in a rock formation that’s dated back about 500 million years ago. To the creationists, this proves that evolution isn’t true and the Earth isn’t old, which it don’t. All it does is add to the list of young earth hoaxes that are out there, including the alleged Paluxy human track, the Ica stones, and Acambaro figurines. To learn the truth behind the so-called “Meister Print,” click here.
More Irony and Hypocrisy
YECs gives out the reminder again about that verse mentioned above they claim encourages people to “test all things; hold fast what is good.” No doubt the YECs ironically invoke this to deceive people into believing that YEEism is of God’s word, while it’s really of Satan's word. YEEs hypocritically tells the reader that when people tell you something that disagrees with God’s Word, don’t believe it. Test it against the actual evidence and then you know the real truth of the matter. Good advice. Let’s not believe the young earth extremists who do the exact same things they themselves are guilty of and test them against the actual scientific evidence and then we will know that YECism is all of the Devil with all lies and no truth within. Oh, such Irony…
Coelacanth Lie
Now, pages 56 and 57 tells of the old coelacanth story and how YECs tries to use it to disprove evolution and scientific dating methods saying that the fish looks exactly like their fossil counterparts while ignoring the fact that what the men actually caught is a much different species known as Latimeria Chalumnae, which is much different than the extinct species of coelacanth that’s mostly Coelacanthidae. This comes to show just how much they know about animal species and creative kinds and how they are related to each other living and extinct….not at all.
Behemoth Lie
The Dinosaurs and the Bible fallacy is next on pages 58 and 59 where YECs shows off the falsehood about Behemoth (Behemot) being a dinosaur like Apatosaurus, despite the fact they has no genitals or belly buttons outside their bodies. Creationists wanted Verse 17 of Job 40 to refer to the thick, long, chunky tails of the sauropod dinosaurs, never wanting to get it in their heads that the ‘tail’ in the verse is in fact used as a euphemism for ‘penis’. And that the passage has reference to the mammalian monster’s erotic behavior and ignores the fact that none of the dinosaurs have belly buttons. They’re all egg layers just like birds and crocodiles.
The Real Dinosaurs of the Bible
The Bible does mentioned dinosaurs per se’. There are many dinosaurs mentioned in the Bible. But, they are neither dragons, flying serpents, nor Behemoth and Leviathan. Instead, they’re much different creatures with a much different name then what they are called. Although they’re dinosaurs, we nowadays call them birds. Birds, such as eagles, doves, pigeons, and sparrows, are dinosaurs (thanks to the evidences of feathered avian and maniraptorian dinosaurs turning up, especially in China, where scientists and peasants alike have unearthed amazing fossils of feathered dinosaurs such as Sinosauropteryx, Protarchaeoptryx, Sinornithosaurus, and others) and are the only dinosaurs that are mentioned in the Bible that lived, walked, and ate with Adam, live alongside humans, be rescued from the flood by Noah and his ark, and survive to live among us to this very day.
Leviathan
Next, pages 60 and 61 gives out the myth of Leviathan to be a real dinosaur-like sea creature with impenetrable armor and a fiery breath, while the monster is actually a creature of myth resembling the Hydra of Greek mythology with impenetrable armor, a fiery breath, a serpentine body, and multiple heads according to one verse in the Bible (Psalm 74:14).
Rhedosaurus, The Inspiration Behind Leviathan
Believe it or not, the monster shown in the large image on page 61 is an actual stereotype version of a fictional dinosaur called “Rhedosaurus” shown in the classic 1953 movie <em>The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms,</em> which is quite possibly where the artist got that kind of a monster concept for his painting from.
This is the artist’s rendition of Leviathan shown on page 61 and how it is compared to Rhedosaurus from The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms.
Unique Animals
Pages 62 and 63 just simply shows 3 unique animals, the electric eel, the bombardier beetle, and the lightning bug which they often have been invoked by the YECs to justify their fire-breathing dinosaur fantasy they made up by using their wild imaginations and pretend that dinosaurs like the crested Lambeosaurines had hot liquid glands inside their crests or their throats to help them breathe fire and claims them to describe Leviathan while being ignorant of the real truth behind the dinosaurs complete lack of chemical glands in their remains and Leviathan who, along with Behemoth, is nothing more than a supernatural monster of Jewish folklore.
Dragon Tales
Pages 64 and 65 brings on the dragon tales creationists fabricate to fit their beliefs in an attempt to prove that these are accounts of people meeting up with dinosaurs while ignoring the fact that the word ‘dragon’ actually comes from the Greek word “drakon” meaning “serpent” or “snake.” No dinosaur resembled serpents or snakes in every way. What the 2 YECs show in the book along all other YEC literature, media, and websites including this one (Note: this site has tons of distortions and hoaxes (all modern and ancient design heavily distorted through heavy duty photoshop editing), folkloric myths (all fabricated), and multiple pareidolias distorted and exploited; all 3 in which the webmasters claim to be evidence of an advance ancient world that supports the Bible while ignoring the real evidence against it. What they really support is all in their heads and their imagination, not in actual evidence.) all 100% failed miserably to explain how come there are no remains of dinosaurs found mixed with human remains anywhere, everywhere, throughout the world.
Only a few examples of creationists fabricating dragon myths are shown here including the accounts of Chinese dragons pulling chariots of Chinese Emperors. This is a direct fabrications of accounts which tells of dragons pulling chariots for the emperors and deities in the air as well as on the water’s surface. This account came from an ancient Chinese resource called “Chinese Classics” where the YECs must have taken parts of a section in the series known as “The Care and Taming of Dragons” out of context and distort them to fit their beliefs.
In a way, dinosaurs are dragons per se’. Dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals may have inspired dragon legends through discoveries of their fossil remains made by ancient people who were awed and puzzled by them and left them to wonder what these bones really were from. As a result stories of mythical monsters were made up to explain these strange bones including dragons, giants, even griffins. There even has been historical accounts of fossil remains of dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals being unearthed and made into medicine by the Chinese people. But, they also used organs of modern animals such as rhino horns and bear bile to make medicine along with them as well.
Marco Polo according to his writings claims to have seen dragons called Lindworms which were not dinosaurs despite what is depicted in the picture on page 64, but dragons with serpentine bodies, 2 stumpy legs that serves as arms, usually no wings, a tail with a head like a snake, and are known to run as fast as a horse and are highly deadly. This some people believed that he is referring to sightings of crocodiles along with serpents living in China at that time. Here’s is the image below of what Marco claims to have seen in his book The Book of Marvels.
Now does that look like dinosaurs to you? I don't think so!
The second and third tales, which are English dragon tales, YECs claim to be of dinosaurs actually tells of large serpentine legless dragons called wyrms with crested or tufted heads, a poisonous bite, and a fiery breath and in a lot of cases very hard to kill due to their impenetrable armor.
The first one is the 1405 account of sighting of a wyrm, a serpentine dragon with a crested head that may have been based on a sighting of a crocodile that have escaped from the Tower of London where King Richard II kept a large menagerie of animals in his own private zoo since the crocodile had armor on its back and the archers in the story have had a hard time killing it.
The second account also possibly based on either a fight between 2 rival crocodiles or is used as a metaphor of a great war between 2 armies that fought along side of the river, is in 1449 where alongside of a river known as the Stour river near the village of Little Cornard, there were 2 wyrms, a black Suffolk dragon and a red spotted Essex dragon, in no way are they dinosaurs, fighting each other until the Suffolk dragon retreated and the Essex dragon triumphs and eats many spectators that came and watched the fight nearby.
St. George and the dragon tale is next, where a brave knight named St. George killed a fierce dragon that was is actually a heraldic dragon to save a maiden from its jaws. The heraldic dragon is said to have bat wings, poison breath, a barbed tail and tongue, a fiery breath, and an arrow head. No way does it resembled a dinosaur despite efforts made by the YECs to fabricate and exploit the story to include Baryonyx, a primitive Early Cretaceous spinosaurid, in the tale.
The YECs claim that we will never know which details of the stories are either fact or fantasy….or do we? Anyone who is most familiar with dragon tales should know which is fact and which is fantasy. Those who do, knows very well that none of these huge lizards in the stories sound like dinosaurs because none of them have serpentine bodies, two to 6 limbs, impenetrable scales, the ability to create storms like what actual dragons have. And dinosaurs and pterosaurs are not lizards or snakes, nor are they related to them. Dinosaurs are actually related to crocodiles and birds while pterosaurs are related to the dinosaurs. All of the dinosaurs' anatomy bear close resemblance to birds in one from or another. None of them ever breathe fire, have multiple heads, have glands that allows them to spit out poisonous gases or venom, have pointed ears, impenetrable armor, women’s breasts, bat wings, guard mass hordes of treasure, eat people especially maidens, create storms, and change into different forms. The 2 YECs then added another argument from ignorance by falsely assume that since most legends are based on some truth, then it must be true that the dragons of old could very well have been dinosaurs. This is not so. What must be true and what’s really true is two different things. The stories and legends are actually based on sightings of fossil remains of dinosaurs and other prehistoric beings as well as sightings of modern reptiles like alligators, crocodiles, snakes, and lizards.
Flood Myth
Pages 66-69 now gives out the myth of dinosaurs in most cases being destroyed in Noah’s Flood while there is no evidence for it. The 2 creationists, after giving out some known theories to explain what cause the dinosaurs to die out, claims that the idea of a meteor being the one that cause the Chicxulub crater in the Gulf of Mexico have lots of problems to it because this does not explain why did the dinosaurs die out while others survived the catastrophe like lizards and crocodiles.
Keyword: Adaptation. The survivors including mammals, birds, and modern reptiles were capable of adapting to the climatic change simply by hiding in natural shelters whether is in trees or in underground burrows and in deep water that protected them from the disasters that came from the meteorite and find food sources from far and wide. Others, including all of the dinosaurs, except birds however, were not capable of surviving the drastic changes being made in the environment that greatly proves unfavorable to them and eventually die off. The creationists even claim that the fossil record tells us that some of the dinosaurs lived at a later time while in fact their remains have actually been eroded into the Cenozoic rocks only to get redeposited again. Then, the 2 YECs claimed that some scientists thinks the crater may not have been created by an asteroid. What they didn’t mentioned is that these scientists, who says it wasn’t a meteorite, thinks it was a comet instead that may have struck the earth, creating the Chicxulub crater 65 million years ago.
Note the picture where a dying Parasaurolophus has some hanging skin being shed from all over its body, falsely implying that this is a lot like a lizard while in fact no evidence of shedding dinosaur skin has ever been found.
Mass Burials
Page 68 gives out the fallacy about mass graveyards of dinosaurs being made by Noah’s Flood. Believe it or not, mass burials do not have Noah’s flood written all over them. Instead mass burials may have been cause by volcanic eruptions, sandstorms, local flooding with bodies accumulated in one spot over long periods of time, and being trapped in tar and mud pits like the La Brea tap pits from example.
If there was a Noah’s Flood, YEC style, then all of the dinosaurs would have been washed and scattered away into individuals; all jumbled and broken apart. Although the creationists may give out some problems about the meteorite and the dinosaur extinction that can easily be solved and overcome, they, on the other hand, hide from the audience the fact that that are some highly major problems and flaws behind the global flood of Noah, which they cannot handle without resorting to the conclusions of “Goddidit” based on Psalms 104:6-8 that’s paraded on the same page. The 2 creationists tries to invoke the passage to justify the myth of the global flood, while it really have zero to do with it when put in full text. The full text version of it refers to the creation of the earth and the formation of the mountains, hills, valleys and seas. How did the mountains formed? “Goddidit” How did valleys formed? “Goddidit.” How did the hills formed? “Goddidit” What prevents the land from being covered with water? “Goddidit” All of this is using God as an excuse for not knowing how did God caused the mountains, valleys, land and sea to form in a natural way without resorting to Noah’s Flood, which will actually erode the mountains away instead of raising them up. One verse, Genesis 8:5, creationists falsely assume to be mountains rising from the flood waters, actually refers to the lowering of the waters to reveal the mountaintops (hilltops). It does not refer to the raising of the mountains above the flood waters. Besides the mountains were already revealed by the time Noah’s ark rested on the Mountains of Ararat in the previous verse just before it.
Myth About Noah’s ark
Pass page 69 where an unlikely scenario shows dinosaurs and modern animals being drown and mixed together in the Flood, we get to pages 70 and 71 where the 2 YEEs address the myth of Noah taking in dinosaurs up aboard into the ark other than birds. Now the 2 creationists claim that Noah has no problem taking animals into the ark. But when it takes 90 million+ to fit in a 450×75x45 vessel? YEEs think so by assuming that if the ark can fit about 520 modern railroad cars and 10 railway cars inside the ark, then Noah would be able to fit all sorts of terrestrial animal life into the ark. Even if this is the case, there is still problems of trying to fit the animals all into the ark. YEEs claim that God commands Noah to take in it 2 of every kind of animals, which to the YECs, it must include dinosaurs, other than birds, which they don’t believe them to be dinosaurs despite evidence that greatly favors them to be dinosaurs after all.
There’s still a problem with trying to fit all 600 different kinds of dinosaurs and still growing along with all of the other 90 million + species of animals into the ark, though. So creationists uses their imagination and make up a just-so story of Noah taking up not just small adult size dinosaurs but baby or teen-aged immature, inexperience dinosaurs (Up to 50 different basic kinds according to some creationists like Ken Ham, which contradicts the commands of God for Noah to take up all kinds of animals into the ark.) into the ark, while he is supposed to take up with him all kinds of animals that are all fully grown, sexually mature adults, which “a male and his mate” in Genesis 7:2-4 is clearly referring to.
Even if he did take up small adult dinosaurs and large baby immature dinosaurs about 50 different kinds, there is still a problem with trying to cram them all into the ark, which cannot be done. Not with all those 600 different kinds along with 90 million plus animals species it can’t, unless God does some groundless miracles and trapped them all in some smaller container like Poke’mon. Even if the dinosaurs on average were as big a small dog, you can bet they won’t be that small for long. Dinosaurs grow up real fast and on average, dinosaurs can grow up from hatchling to an adult in a matter of 10 years or less depending upon species. They will even grow to overcrowd the ark in a matter of months greatly exceeding it’s capacity by a huge mile.
Even creationists themselves admit they have problems with the ark capacity and how Noah put all sorts of animals into the ark. So to deal with this, they used their imagination and pretend Noah took up only representatives of each kind of animals into the ark, which means Noah took up only pit bulls and let the rest of the dogs die in the flood, he took up only caribou and let the rest of the deer kind die in the flood and so on. Like the dino-baby claim, this, too poses major problems since this allows Noah to disobey the Lord when He commanded Noah to take up into the ark 2 of every kind of animal, and that includes 2 of all kinds of animals into the ark just as the Bible says so. No more, no less.
There’s plenty of more problems with the ark out there involving the care and feeding of animals, cleaning them afterwords, ventilation, diseases, etc. It just comes to show how flawed and false the creationists’ distortion of the story of Noah’s ark really is.
It is most likely that Noah only took up 2 of every kind of animal of all modern types that Noah is most familiar with in the middle east, including modern dinosaurs we now called birds.
Post Flood Extremes
Pass pages 72 and 73 where a large image of the ark resting on the mountains of Ararat as the water is going down, we get to pages 74 and 75 where it deals with a very sorry falsehood involving dinosaurs being killed of by “post-flood” extremes. Honestly, if God wanted all dinosaurs to be saved in the ark from the Flood to be kept alive afterwords, yet they die off due to some “post-flood” conditions (i.e. changes of the climate, man hunting them and killing them off as portrayed in dragon tales, shorten life spans, etc.) that became unfavorable for them, then what’s the point of ever rescuing them from the flood anyway? This has got to be the most pathetic, funny-ha ha, stupid joke, YECs ever come up with to explain the extinction of the dinosaurs with no evidence to boot. No way does it met up with scrutiny, nor does it have any foundational grounds, and no truth in them either. Not even in their made up fabrications of dragon legends.
As seen Only In Science Fiction Literature
At the bottom of the 2 pages, there is a painting depicting what you will only see in science fiction art and literature which young earth extremism is a part of, whether its advocates like it or not. The painting depicts 2 men of modern image hauling a theropod they’ve captured and tied up on top of a wagon trailer pulled by a fictional ceratopsian type dinosaur drawn as reference to Ngoubou, an alleged cryptid based on actual rhinoceros sightings in the Congo basin, claiming be creationists to be alleged ceratopsians roaming the Congo basin despite total lack of ceratopsian remains, fully intact bodies, and other types of physical evidence, with 2 forged rhino-like horns, curved spines on the frill, a concave back as seen on a horse, tusk-like teeth sticking out of its mouth, and a horse-like leg posture. One of them, an Indiana Jones look-a-like in modern appearance is riding on a hypsilophodontid-type dinosaur like a horse, watching the living cargo. The other person walking along far behind 2 dogs in front of the wagon is probably his assistant, also of modern appearance. Just like I said before, if this is such a case then we would have seen evidences of dinosaurs and man living recently found in both scientific and historical evidence such as a mixture of man and dinosaur bones found in all of rock strata from top to bottom, ancient tombs where both dinosaurs and man are buried together, ancient manuscripts, figurines, and images that are valid, in-context, non-hoax, non-fabricated, and authentically made up by actual ancient people, whether they’re Romans, Egyptians, or people living in Medieval times, bridals, saddles, harnesses, nose rings big enough to fit in a dinosaur nose, large wagons, barns, and stables built for them, dinosaurs skins and bones for tools, clothing and jewelry, weapons, traps and cages big enough for them to be kept in. But none are found! Not even in ancient ruins of human dwellings such as villages and cities.
Flood Stories
Now pages 76-79 tells of flood myths or “Flood Legends” YEEs try to use as proofs of Noah’s flood to be a historical event past down from one generation to the next with bits of it being changed and slowly altered over the years and shows an example on page 76 of a gossip game where one person whisper a story to the other person and the other person whisper the story to the other person in a different version and so on. An image of a group of kids playing the gossip game is also shown on the page to give out the example of what the 2 YECs mean by what they claim. Yet all of them do not explain how come Egypt, along with a few other ancient countries in the world, totally lacked a flood story in their mythology, despite having the nation being located along the Nile River. On page 79, there is also a myth about 4 Chinese characters being translated as Noah’s ark with eight people inside while the characters actually describes 8 people in a very small canoe as explained here.
Each and every flood myth is based on a local flood myth. Each tells of what happened in a very different way. In some versions all of the humans perished. Others versions tells of hundreds of people that have survived the flood. Other tales told of the flood that never occurring at all. It was prevented by prayer intervention by people praying to their gods begging them not to punish mankind with a flood. Other stories tell of gods flooding the earth because mankind was too noisy. The reason why the flood stories in some cases bears a resemblance to the story of Noah’s flood is because of Christian missionaries traveling to various countries sharing the story of Noah’s flood to the people they are visiting in their native countries and the natives incorporated the stories into their folklore. On Talkorigins,org, there is a whole list of flood stories collected by Mark Isaak that you can see on this webpage.
YE Hypocrisy
Now we get to the final page of the book, which is page 80, where the YE hypocrites claimed that for many years dinosaurs are used by evolutionists to try to convince the people like us that evolution is true and teach that dinosaurs evolved and became extinct millions of years ago before humans ever existed, yet turn around and do the exact same thing they're guilty of doing themselves— try to convince people that the concept of dinosaurs living with humans is true while it's not.
They claim that evolutionists spends millions of dollars to produce TV shows, books, and cartoons YECs claim present only a few real facts about dinosaurs and humans. Yet, the young earth charlatans like the 2 YECs turned around and do the exact same thing; using dinosaurs to convince us that young earthism is true. Wasting millions of dollars by making faux museums, TV programs, cartoons, “beautiful, full color books,” trying to convince readers and observers that dinosaurs and humans live at the same time, despite evidence to the contrary. They claimed,
“It is time that the true story about dinosaurs and humans is heard! The story told by evolutionists does not agree with the true facts of science and the Bible.”
This is false. The story evolutionists tell DOES agree with true facts of science and the Bible due to scientific evidence that favors old earth and evolution, the real deal that’s being uncovered and piling up to form a mountain creationists can’t refute no matter how hard they try. The only thing however that does not agree with the true facts of science and the Bible is young earth extremism itself along with its advocates and other evolution deniers out there. What they are really saying is translated to:
“It is time for the false story about dinosaurs and humans to be heard! We will lie about dinosaurs and equate it with the Bible, never to care about the contrary because even though the contrary is true. We would rather lie to the people about dinosaurs and everything about science to win them converts to our side and get rich off of them by saying that the evidence points to humans living with dinosaurs saying to them that it’s all from God’s word while hiding the truth and not telling them that these evidences are all nothing but hoaxes, twisted bible verses and fabrications, distorted, exploitations of dragon stories, and just-so stories.“
Conclusion
The 2 YECs claim that it is easy to see that dinosaurs and humans once lived together by reviewing the evidence shown in the book that are not evidences at all, but fakes, frauds, distortions, and twisted Bible stories and fairy tales and declares falsely that God put humans on earth with dinosaurs so that humans can look at the dinosaurs and see God’s power and ability, which is an outright, bold-face lie. Otherwise, we would see all the things I’ve mentioned above like the tombs of humans and dinosaurs buried together, harnesses, weapons, and dinosaurs skins and bones for tools, clothing and jewelry, but none has existed!
It is senseless and stupid to bring glory to God through dungy just-so stories, myths, exploitations,
distortions, concealing real evidence to the contrary, slandering evolution and its supporters, make blasphemous assumptions over how God created things, showing contempt and hatred towards those who oppose their views, being a racist and show hatred, prejudice, and discrimination toward Jews, Gays, Lesbians, blacks, etc. And resorting to all sorts of blatant lies and pathetic comedy cloaked as science while leading people, especially children, astray to the point of being brainwashed and unaware that they are all being lied to for personal gain, not for the glory of God. Their evidence of humans living with dinosaurs shown in the book is no evidence at all. YEC, lying to the very end, claims that dinosaurs don’t prove evolution, yet they do along with multiple scores of scientific evidence that does prove evolution as told the real way altogether.
Dinosaurs, along with great multitudes of scientific evidence do prove both evolution and the fact that there is a powerful God who created everything. The myth about dinosaurs being allegedly created alongside of humans to “bring glory to God” who allegedly put them on earth with the dinosaurs so that they will look at them and see His power and ability is all one blatant lie and a total myth that can not be proven true. YECism itself can not prove their lies to be all true, nor can they prove there is a powerful God who created everything in a non-deceptive way (They really have been known to make a liar out of Him through “Appearance of age” and other YE fallacies, which is a total blasphemy.), either. What the 2 creationists really prove is just how false, stupid, blasphemous, and idiotic all their claims about dinosaurs truly is.
