Ham's Lie about Dinosaur Diet
Page 47 asks, "What did dinosaurs eat, and how did they behave?" Answer: 1) Most dinosaurs were plant-eaters. Others ate meat. The rest ate both. 2.) It all depends on the fossil clues left behind by the dinosaurs based on their behavior.
This just comes to show just how creationists like Ham go all the way to make up one stupid lie after another when they present what they believe to be the exact diets the dinosaurs *two finger waving* must have had *two finger waving* before the Fall, let alone the Flood. In this claim, Ham made the plant kingdom suffer in his distortion of Genesis 1:30 to mean a commandment from God for all animals to eat only plants.
If we believe the Bible and the literal Genesis, we will find that God did not commanded the animals to eat plants, he only provided the animals plants for food. God did not exempt animals from eating meat. Especially outside the Garden of Eden where animals such as lions and wolves roam about in search of meat God provides for them to eat.
To defend his tripe, Ham uses animals that have sharp teeth yet ate fruits and plants such as the panda and the camel. But does he know that these animals have chewing and biting teeth as well as sharp teeth called canines? No, he don't. He'd rather ignore all that and focus only on canine teeth that don't work as well as T.rex's one set of thick, conical teeth which it uses to crush through bone as well as skin and flesh unlike the weak, smooth, flat, blunt canines that can only be used to intimidate rivals, fight back when attacked, and to hold onto food.
Now he tells a fairy tale story where everything goes la-la-la without having to worry about things that go “bump,” “scrape,” and “smash” all over their bodies,
"Some argue that people or animals would have been hurt even in an ideal world. They contend that even before sin, Adam or an animal could have stood on small creatures or scratched himself on a branch. Now these sorts of situations are true of today’s fallen world—the present world is not perfect; it is suffering from the effects of the Curse (Romans 8:22). One cannot look at the Bible through the world’s eyes and insist that the world before sin was just like the world we see today.”
Oh yes they can. Think of life outside the Garden in comparison to life inside the Garden. Adam's pad is quite small in comparison with the rest of the world. In Ham's world, all of earth is one big fairy tale world where everything concerning thorns, leeches, and bacteria doesn't exist (so Adam and the animals can't digest food since bacteria is needed to digest plant matter and plants can't get all the nutrients needed to live if decay doesn't occur), where branches are just blunt projectiles, rocks are all like nerf balls and people and animals do ballet to keep themselves from stepping on the little critters like the ant and the beetle crawling about. This is the creationists' own definition of a perfect world where no clothing (if any) will wear out, no one will get burned, and all animals are peaceful vegetarians.
This imaginary “perfect world,” creationists claimed to be real at one time before Adam sinned, is asserted to be fully restored when Jesus Christ comes back to Earth and fulfill the prophesy told by Isaiah where the wolf will lie with the lamb, the lion will eat straw like an ox, and the children will not be hurt when they play near a cobra nest.
This definition of a perfect world, however, is not really perfect at all. When Jesus Christ comes back to earth, what He'll do to the earth will not be what creationists want to see come to fruition. God will not restore Eden, but instead render earth into something better than what creationists assume He'll do. One has to wonder, how do they really know if that's exactly what God will do when He comes back to earth or this is just another way to test God by saying He'll do it and them turn around and really hope that He'll do what they say while being ignorant of God having other plans for the future?
What creationists expect God to do and what God will really do is two different things. If there was no death before the Fall, then there's no reason for God to put the Tree of Life in the garden and no reason for animals to have traits of a carnivore either. Even when the wolves do lie with lambs, and the lions eat straw, and the children play near a snake nest (a possible metaphor for the time to come when the people of Israel will find themselves living peacefully, eating, working, and playing with their once enemy neighbors) on God's mountain, no animal will be exempt from eating meat. Especially when the meat comes from the triune beasts God plans to kill at the end of the world to offer His people a never ending supply of meat to eat and skin and bones for tents, clothing, and jewelry.
Creationists like Ham are notorious for shunning much of the Bible to focus only on the verses and passages that matters to them, such as Isaiah 11:6-9 for instance, while shunning other passages in the Bible that condone, even instigated carnivory. There are passages in the Bible where God sends out wild animals to kill and devour people who rebel against Him and a verse in the Bible where David praised God for providing meat for the lions to eat. How do creationists explain all that? Answer: They can't and won't. They'll only shun them and regard the claws and fangs as something that in Henry Morris' words, “..must await research.” In other words, throw them out so they won't have to bother dealing with them.
Having God commanding all animals and humans to eat only plants until after the Flood and having carnivory and fangs be part of the sin-cursed world is just another example of creationists distorting the Bible to fit their beliefs. And that includes taking Bible verses out of context and distort their meanings to fit their beliefs and use it as a huge part of a ploy conspiracy to stir up the emotions of the people to the point where they will be easy to subject them to the dogmatic teachings of Ham who goes on about God giving man dominion over the animals on earth and then adds,
“Looking at today’s world, we are reminded of Hebrews 2:8: 'For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not put under him. But now we do not yet see all things put under him.' Man’s relationship with all things changed because of sin—they are not “under him” as they were originally."
The Hebrews 2:8 verse is taken out of context. When put into full context we find that the verse only refers to Jesus Himself being made in the likeness of men for the purpose of fulfilling His role as Savior of all mankind. It has nothing to do with man's dominion over the animal kingdom (Note: In the past, the verses 26 and 28 in Genesis 1, which says that God gave man dominion over the whole animal kingdom, have been used as an excuse to destroy forests, swamps, wetlands, and other natural made environments to make room for farming and over-hunt animals even to the point of extinction, which leave people to wonder why did the soil get washed away by the rains due to all the trees being chopped down and why are they overrun by certain animals like disease-infested rats due to the extermination of predators that consume them.)
Ham then says that a true Christian worldview commences with in big capital letters again, "revelation," not fallible human opinions, which is what creationism itself is entirely made up of— fallible human opinions cloaked as God's Word. In this quote Ham tries to equate creationism with revelation just by encouraging the reader to put on "Bible Blinkers,"
not glasses and look at the world through Ham's own eyes. It's not about the bible. It's about Ham himself. He's guilty of distorting the Bible to make it agree with everything he claims about dinosaurs and the origins of life. If the reader does put on the bible blinkers, he won't be curtailed to the fact that young earthism is nothing more than exactly what Ham falsely and hypocritically branded evolution as - a fallible human opinion.
No Honest Answer
At the bottom of page 49, a question is asked, "What about characteristics of animals today that seemed to be suited for hunting and killing?" Answer: This is the question the YECs can't honestly answer, thus resorting to hypocrisy and say that evolution is a lie and yet turned around and promote evolution of their own— fast, rapid evolution.
Note the hypocrisy in Morris' quote about the concept of life changing over time, Morris and others like him hypocritically asserts it's all a lie. Ham, the hypocrite also believe this hypocrisy, claiming, on page 50, that maybe some animals began eating other animals after the fall and quoted a bible verse in Genesis 6:12 that actually refers to the entire human race, not animals. Then Ham quotes Genesis 9:2 saying that after the flood, God gives the animals a natural fear of man, never mind the fact that not all animals are afraid of man including dogs, bears, and monkeys. Thankfully, dinosaurs were never affected by it.
Page 51 asks this meaningless question, "Why do we find dinosaur fossils?" Ham answers this by claiming that all fossils must form by rapid burial, claiming that evolutionists once thought that the fossils formed over a slow period of millions of years only to find that the fossils were form at a rapid burial pace recently. That's only half-truth. Although some fossil methods does require quick burial, other require a much slow, slow process such as the formation of amber and coal. This is a fabricated falsehood that shows how little Ham knows about fossils and fossilization and how they work — not at all. To really know about how a fossil is formed and what kinds of fossilization are out there, click on the links below.
A Just So Story
Then Ham asserts that because the world was such a wicked place, God had to send a Flood to destroy everything and start all over. To survive the Flood, Noah at God's command had to build the ark and put all kinds of animals inside. One of the most silliest reasons Christians has made over the years to why the dinosaurs disappeared is because they were too big to fit into the ark. Ham counter this and claim that on average, all dinosaurs were the size of sheep or cows. This lie, just as bad as the too-big-to-fit-into-the-ark lie, is all made up in an attempt to fit all types of animals into the ark which cannot be done.
Dinosaurs don't stay that small for long. They grow up real fast and in some cases grow from hatchling to an adult in a matter of months. Even if all of the dinosaurs, on the average, were the size of sheep, there's still no way can they all fit into the ark. Not with 600+ kinds and still growing. Page 52 tells of the sheep size myth as well as the myth about young baby dinosaurs being taken on board. Noah was supposed to take up animals, a male and his mate, into the ark that are all sexually mature, not immature, inexperience babies that won't make it after they left the ark after the flood.
Page 53 shows a Stegosaurus hatchling coming out of an egg with an outdated classification shown right above it.
Ham's Lie About Stegosaurus
Pages 54-56 tells of the strawman, distorted description and discovery of Stegosaurus, the largest plated dinosaur and the most famous Stegosaur of the Jurassic Period, who lived 150 million years ago in what is now North America. On page 56, Ham brings on the myth about baby dinosaurs like Stegosaurus being taken to the ark, assuming that "teenage" dinosaurs growing up to about the size of a pony will within many years grow up into gigantic adults we're most familiar with after they leave the ark and reproduce, never mind the fact that dinosaurs like Stegosaurus can grow up from hatchling into adult in a matter of months, a few years or a decade depending upon species.
Ham Teaching Evolution!
Page 57 proves Ham a first class hypocrite, just like all the others who asserts that Noah could only take up basic kinds of dinosaurs as well as basic kinds of all other animals into the ark so they can reproduce into great number species of animals we see today through either natural or artificial selection. All on this page, Ham advocates the very same thing he arrogantly declares it a lie and a falsehood….evolution. The word "evolution" which means "unfolding" is define according to the PBS Evolution series..
"Biological evolution refers to the cumulative changes that occur in a population over time. These changes are produced at the genetic level as organisms' genes mutate and/or recombine in different ways during reproduction and are passed on to future generations. Sometimes, individuals inherit new characteristics that give them a survival and reproductive advantage in their local environments; these characteristics tend to increase in frequency in the population, while those that are disadvantageous decrease in frequency. This process of differential survival and reproduction is known as natural selection. Non-genetic changes that occur during an organism's life span, such as increases in muscle mass due to exercise and diet, cannot be passed on to the next generation and are not examples of evolution."
Like all creationists, Ham asserts that Noah took only [sic] “representative kinds of land animals” while leaving out the rest of the animal species to die off in the flood. Taking only young, inexperience “representatives” while leaving out the rest of the animal kingdom to die in the Flood is an act of disobedience to the Lord, for this greatly contradicts the command from God for Noah to take in <em>all kinds</em> of animals, including species, into the ark.
If what Ham claims to be the case, then Noah took up only chimpanzees while leaving the rest of the apes to die in the Flood; he took up only cobras and left the rest of the snakes to die in the Flood; he took up only bald eagles and left the rest of the eagle “kinds,” such as the harpy eagle, to die in the Flood; he took up only grizzly bears and left the rest of the bear population to die in the Flood; and so on. What is shown here is the best example of how creationists distort the biblical story of Noah's Flood to fit their beliefs and display their utmost hypocrisy when they claim that evolution is false, yet turn around and teach evolution to be true only when it suits them.
Ham teaches rapid evolution to which he cloaked as speciation which he claims that is not evolution, but it IS evolution! To hide the fact that he is teaching evolution, Ham asserts that speciation is in his own words,
“..something based on the created information already present and is thus a limited, downhill process, not involving an upward increase in complexity.”
In other words, what he's really saying is that all animals are clones. Pure, degenerate, slightly modified, sometimes mutant, carbon copies of the original imaginary “created kinds” with slight modifications added to them, meaning that when he says that Noah simply took up a tad few cat, dog, ape, or bear kinds into the ark (while leaving out the rest of the animals to die in the Flood — species in all) so they can repopulate the world and develop back into the many varieties of clones we see today, it implies that all types of animals, living and extinct, are direct descendants of basic kinds of animals, one or two each, that were rescued from the Flood, left the ark, and quickly developed into huge stock piles of cloned animal varieties that repopulated the earth in a very short time once more.
This is what Ham wants everyone to believe, accept, and above all, deny he's ever teaching evolution, especially through common descant, and ignore all the problems and Biblical contradictions that associates with speciation, mutations and the Noah's Flood scenario such as, for instance, the claim about most animals dying off after the Flood after God wanted them be kept alive after the Flood. If God wanted them alive, yet they died off after the Flood, then what's the point of rescuing them anyway?
Ham and other YECs is surprisingly advocating evolution when they say that Noah took only basic kinds of animals to reproduce into many different kinds of animals we see today. Some people may not agree with Darwin's views of evolution, but it seems they are most certainly agreeing with Ham and Morris' theories of evolution which is exactly what creationists claim Darwin's theory is— just a theory. Speciation, according to the definition in The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, is define as,
"The evolutionary formation of new biological species, usually by the division of a single species into two or more genetically distinct ones."
Thus, speciation is evolution, and Ham knows it. He refuses to admit this or else he will lose them and their money he get from them and wastes away at building and operating his crackhouse in Petersburg, Kentucky to science and reality. Ham then gives out his own strawman version of evolution and claims that information never (in large capital letters) arises by chance, which evolution actually speaks nothing of and claims constantly that it has not been observed, thus rendering evolution impossible to happen. This is a blatant lie as shown here. Reference to Evolution not being chance is here.
Ham Lies About Kinds
Page 58 tells more of Ham's falsehoods which is entirely made up as an attempt to fit all animals into the ark which is completely impossible to do. There are over 90 million species of animals in the world, living and extinct. Even taking in only young, sheep-size basic representatives would still overfill the ark to way beyond its capacity, causing the vessel to burst apart into splinters and send all of its passengers down to the bottom of the sea. It will be completely impossible for 8 people to care for all these animals without encountering problems over diseases, sanitation, food, ventilation, stimulation, and exercise.
To combat this problem, creationists use their imaginations and pretend that all the animals in the ark went into hibernation and sleep throughout the trip. That way Noah and his family won't have to care for them as much…or so they assume. Most animals don't hibernate at all and sometimes hibernation proves to be a life hazard to those who do hibernate for the winter or estivate during drought seasons. Creationists would say that God caused all the animals to hibernate so that Noah would not have to spend a lot of time caring for them, prey animals would not be nervous around predatory animals, and Noah would only give the animals, including predators, just plant food to eat. This is all imagined up. All they ever present to the lay audience is just made-up imaginary scenarios they dredged up to help deal with how did the animals survive in the ark without having to encounter problems over disease, ventilation, sanitation, etc. Plus, putting them on a vegetarian diet is not going to keep predators in a healthy state. Especially when all those plants is going to make them real sick. Even Little Tyke had major heath problems when she was alive and suffering from protein deficiency that caused her to not eat meat at all.
Ham then parades the less-than-50-different-kinds-of-dinosaur falsehood when he claims,
"Dinosaur names have tended to proliferate, with new names being given to just a few pieces of bone (false), even if the skeleton looks similar to one that is a different size or found in a different country. There were probably fewer than 50 distinct groups or kinds of dinosaurs that had to be on the Ark.”
How are they're fewer than 50 "distinct groups or kinds of dinosaurs" Ham Or is this is the way to ignore the other 550+ distinct groups or kinds of dinosaurs known in hopes of fitting all dinosaurs into the ark? There were much, much more than 50 distinct groups of dinosaurs that would overfill the ark and burst it in to splinters (even when they're sheep sized), leaving no room for all other animals living and extinct to come inside and be saved.
There are more than 600 different kinds of dinosaurs— and still growing as new dinosaur species is discovered every 6 weeks on average. Plus this is entirely made up out of total ignorance of scores of complete dinosaur skeletons unearthed over the years that adds more to the dinosaur supertree, making it grow more larger than it was before.
This less-than-50-different-kinds-tripe is made entirely up to fit dinosaurs into the ark let alone all other forms of living and extinct life which it cannot be done. The ark was extremely large, but not large enough to hold all basic kinds of animals in the world that exceeds 90 million, let alone way exceeds 50 and 200.
All of what is shown on page 58 is debunked concerning the number of animals and the ark capacity being fewer than 75,000 animals which Morris and John Whitcomb claim to fit only on one floor of the ark. Even with 75,000 animals there is no way can they be fitted in the ark, not even on one floor. Even if they did fit into the ark, there will be much more major problems with feeding, care, maintenance, exercise, and ventilation as mentioned before.
Here's a web page that has a whole list of links to websites that gives out more details on all of the issues on the problems of Noah's ark and how the YEC story of Noah's ark is totally flawed. Click here to visit it. Click here also to read the latest article written by Dave E. Matson for a website created by Ed Babinski, an ex-creationist who was deconverted from Christianity to agnosticism after he realized that he was being deceived by the false teachings of those who claim to be of Christian faith. It exposes the flaws the creationists' flood model has and how even the Bible itself, when looked closely, shows to the reader just how flawed and false the Flood Folly really is.
The Fictional Flood Date
Another falsehood Ham mentions is the Flood allegedly taking place around 4,500 years ago at the same time as the building of the Pyramids in Egypt as well as the notion that there were billions of dead things laid down by water all over the earth, which we find none of. None of the layers of rock were made up by the waters of Noah's Flood. In fact, they were made up by local flooding, volcanic eruptions, sandstorms, droughts, and other non-Noah's Flood related events. Each layer represents a period of time. The younger layers at the top represent recent years, the older layers at the bottom represent the most ancient of years. All this have nothing to do with the Flood.
Ice Age Blunder
The last part of the segment claims falsely that all fossils were formed by the flood and its devastating aftermath, which is false. Ham asserts that the Flood caused the Ice Age to occur right after the Flood ended. That's false, too. There are about 4, not 1, but 4 incidents of an Ice Age to have occurred all throughout earth's history including the most famous one occurring tens of thousands of years ago as shown here.
Ignorance of Rigor Mortis
He then claims that twisted and contorted bodies, mass graveyards, wide distribution (As if all animals and people once live in one single spot before the Flood came and scattered them! Must have been way too over crowded with little or no space back then, huh.), and some whole skeletons of dinosaurs (that were quietly buried in reality) provide convincing evidence of dinosaurs being rapidly buried by the Flood. All of this is false as well.
Floods, even the Flood of Noah, don't really bury things— they simply wash them all away. What does bury everything on the spot rapidly are sandstorms and volcanic ashfalls. In every essay I made about the fraudulent flood geology, I gave you a scenario of what would've happened if the global Flood did occur and greatly affected the world that will bring death to not only the animals, but to people as well. The Flood would've destroyed all plant life, destroy all fossils, decimated the whole world with volcanoes, earthquakes, and meteor storms, which the Bible speaks nothing of, shatter the continents and mountains into the sea, and above all render the whole world into a desert wasteland; no Ice Age. As mentioned before, if God wanted to preserve all life in the ark and yet all life was wiped out just after they left the ark, them what's the point of rescuing them from the Flood anyway?